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VAIL SUCKS

Edd

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A lot can change in 3 weeks...
Yeah, tough to say now. Also, can the days be split between the two, if conditions are similar?

I‘m a fan of both places, but BW will have better snow conditions 8 out of 10 times, conservatively. If you’ve got a group of mostly novice skiers, BW will play well. Nearly all of their glades are currently open, but again, 3 weeks.
 

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Skied both 4-5 times in Jan.
Easy choice currently. BW is in way better shape trail wise, and has much more to offer in way of amenities right now.
Wildcat is pretty much "bare bones", but the Pub is open upstairs
 

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Cat is pretty close to 100% now, but would drop down in a hurry without positive weather. Still several trails they traditionally blow on that they haven't yet: Middle and Lower Catapult, Cheetah and Alley Cat.

I'll be there Saturday and will report what I experience
 

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Cat is pretty close to 100% now, but would drop down in a hurry without positive weather. Still several trails they traditionally blow on that they haven't yet: Middle and Lower Catapult, Cheetah and Alley Cat.

I'll be there Saturday and will report what I experience
BW Fri / Black Sat / Cat Sunday
 

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Yeah, tough to say now. Also, can the days be split between the two, if conditions are similar?

I‘m a fan of both places, but BW will have better snow conditions 8 out of 10 times, conservatively. If you’ve got a group of mostly novice skiers, BW will play well. Nearly all of their glades are currently open, but again, 3 weeks.
Thanks very much for the quick responses, all. Spending some time at both is what I aim to do, but that's just me. Right now the plan's shaping up as BW Friday, some x-country Saturday, and I'll go out for a half-day at Wildcat (more likely) or Attitash on my pass before heading home, depending on how I feel and what conditions are like.
 

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At the Cat today. Fridays here have gotten busy. HSQ line almost reaches the beginner lift.

I was discussing the conditions here with a friend and we agree that it’s different this year. More filled in on the sides and nicely groomed. Not the usual gnarly trail edges.C33303E8-9E53-4331-BD36-35DE3D839D0C.jpeg
 

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Agreed, same at attitash and crotch. Peaks would get trails open and then go back and resurface as necessary. Vail blows DEEP, lets the whales drain and lays down a good surface. My opinion on vail is evolving, they had a decent january in NH. They are still blowing nightly as conditions allow at a 100% open crotch, Peaks would not be blowing at the crotch. Vail is also still blowing at attitash and doing a park build; spent more time at attitash this year than the last ten years combined, not sure if peaks would still be in expansion mode.

Vail needs to get the early season shit show figured out and they need to keep the cat open weekends until the snow is gone. A singles line on weekends would also be nice.
 

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Cheap season passes and work from home have made midweeks much more crowded. But vail is not getting a pass from me until they open the lifts midweek. Abenaki, yankee, and bobcat need to be open especially with the more crowded midweeks. Attitash would be done with snowmaking by now in years past, but they would be 100% open on snowmaking trails. Wildcat has barely blown any snow this year. The storm on mlk saved their ass.
 

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Cheap season passes and work from home have made midweeks much more crowded. But vail is not getting a pass from me until they open the lifts midweek. Abenaki, yankee, and bobcat need to be open especially with the more crowded midweeks. Attitash would be done with snowmaking by now in years past, but they would be 100% open on snowmaking trails. Wildcat has barely blown any snow this year. The storm on mlk saved their ass.

still say we should grab the pitchforks and torches and storm vail headquarters
 

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Heard from a groomer friend of mine that Rob Katz was at Roundtop in PA today. Didn't see anyone "official" looking being escorted around the mountain while I was there on lunch.

I would've loved to have his ear for a 5 minute lift ride...
 

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Heard from a groomer friend of mine that Rob Katz was at Roundtop in PA today. Didn't see anyone "official" looking being escorted around the mountain while I was there on lunch.

I would've loved to have his ear for a 5 minute lift ride...
What would you discuss with him about roundtop
 

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What would you discuss with him about roundtop
Just checked the webcam of roundtop, think I see him him wearing the charcoal Gray management jacket, checking his phone it looks like, probably figuring out a way to avoid you in the lift line.
 

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What would you discuss with him about roundtop

for the most part I'd ask him about the insane lines we've had all year while they're supposed to be limiting the crowd. ask him why they felt the need to shutter night operations Sunday through wednesday. And finally tell him that there is a pretty significant ski culture at this little bump in PA and they've pissed off a lot of people and runoff many pay customers
 

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for the most part I'd ask him about the insane lines we've had all year while they're supposed to be limiting the crowd. ask him why they felt the need to shutter night operations Sunday through wednesday. And finally tell him that there is a pretty significant ski culture at this little bump in PA and they've pissed off a lot of people and runoff many pay customers
why Are people pissed off? Due to the lift lines?
 

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Heard from a groomer friend of mine that Rob Katz was at Roundtop in PA today. Didn't see anyone "official" looking being escorted around the mountain while I was there on lunch.

I would've loved to have his ear for a 5 minute lift ride...
He's too busy doing his Podcast. They just dropped the latest episode on iTunes (but not yet on their page it appears):


The topic is. "We are Part of the Problem." Before you get excited, it is about race relations. An important topic for sure, but no doubt another "feel-good" puff piece. IMHO his time is better spent on resolving the concerns raised by all of you but that is not what he or his PR team feel I guess.
 
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