Mountain Creek update

[Starter Jackets Rule!]

I'm usually going weekday afternoons. Sometimes evenings.

I wasn't referring to whether it was crowded, I avoid the busy times there as it can be a miserable experience. I was referring to the type of crowd they were getting at the Vernon Valley end now that they moved the park rats to the Great Gorge side. From what I remember of last year, the ride up on the cabriolet seemed to still be mostly young local kids with attitude problems.

Ha Ha jersey kids with bad attitudes?
NO WAY!
Hey lets pray for some big dunps!
I want to huck BMW!

 

[bensonr2]

really i thought it was much different. most of the kids where over at south. although there where some mornings durring their winter break that the kids where at vv to gg opened up. for the most part i thought most of the kids where well behaved last winter. there were a couple that rude but no worse than anywhere else.

actually some random dad congragulated me when i smack one of the kids that rides around with me in the helmet for making a wiseass comment. jhared looked at me and told me i couldn't smack him at which point the dad looked at jhared and told him it was my perogotive. he must have tought he was my son. when i told jhared's dad what he did his dad smacked him in the helmet to.

one of the reasons the kids are so bad is they dont know any better they are left to their own devices. a lot of parents us the mountain a babysitting service. most of the kids parents dont even ski/board so they where never taught how the behave on the slopes.

You're probably right. Honestly even though I bought a 5x7 pass last year I barely got any days in. I was bummed they turned South into a park, and extremely disappointed the connector was never opened.

I'm really glad the Sojourn lift will be open, though still slightly sad they won't be opening GG until noon on weekdays. I really miss being able to pull into the South parking lot at 10am, mostly have the place to myself. Obviously I can still roll into Vernon early morning, but that hike through the parking lot with my gear always takes away my enthusiasm. If they don't improve that situation by next season this my last year with a full pass or a 5x7 regardless of price.

 

[hardline]

You're probably right. Honestly even though I bought a 5x7 pass last year I barely got any days in. I was bummed they turned South into a park, and extremely disappointed the connector was never opened.

I'm really glad the Sojourn lift will be open, though still slightly sad they won't be opening GG until noon on weekdays. I really miss being able to pull into the South parking lot at 10am, mostly have the place to myself. Obviously I can still roll into Vernon early morning, but that hike through the parking lot with my gear always takes away my enthusiasm. If they don't improve that situation by next season this my last year with a full pass or a 5x7 regardless of price.

the lower lot at vv sucks but last year in the evening durring the week after work i always just parked at the prefered lot. i think i even parked there a few mornings. its not as bad for me in snowboard boots. i could not imagine doing it in ski boots. the lot situation isn't going to change a VV their really isnt anything they can do. i think south should open at 10 or atleast run the one lift so we could get to the sojourn

 

[bensonr2]

I disagree that there is nothing they can do about the parking situation. I feel they should do away with the preferred and drop off parking on weekdays, at least before the school kids come in after 3pm.

 

[Starter Jackets Rule!]

the lower lot at vv sucks but last year in the evening durring the week after work i always just parked at the prefered lot. i think i even parked there a few mornings. its not as bad for me in snowboard boots. i could not imagine doing it in ski boots. the lot situation isn't going to change a VV their really isnt anything they can do. i think south should open at 10 or atleast run the one lift so we could get to the sojourn

Walking in your ski boots is dumb!
just pack up your stuff in a bag . go to the bar and boot up there, then stash your bag under the stage...Wink!
if you have been to the bar you will know what I am talking about.

 

[hardline]

I disagree that there is nothing they can do about the parking situation. I feel they should do away with the preferred and drop off parking on weekdays, at least before the school kids come in after 3pm.

hmm didn't think of that. you talking about the lot over by the tents or the one across the street over the bridge near the village?

 

[bensonr2]

hmm didn't think of that. you talking about the lot over by the tents or the one across the street over the bridge near the village?

I'm thinking of the lot near the village. It still involves crossing the bridge, but at least that's reasonable and doesn't involve an uphill climb.

 

[hardline]

I'm thinking of the lot near the village. It still involves crossing the bridge, but at least that's reasonable and doesn't involve an uphill climb.

i cant seem to remember but i think i parked there a few times durring the day midweek. always for night sesions. to be honest i dont mind the walk from the upper lot that much. alot of times i ended up with a space right on the left after you turn off of 94. but those lower lots are just stupid.

 

[bensonr2]

Has anyone heard whether they have started to make plans to replace the tents?

Surely these "temporary" structures that have been in place for over ten years must be near the end of their maximum lifetime.

 

[hardline]

Has anyone heard whether they have started to make plans to replace the tents?

Surely these "temporary" structures that have been in place for over ten years must be near the end of their maximum lifetime.

no where on the sprung site does it say the structures are temporary. in fact the have had one in the arctic for a few years. don't know when but its not going to happen in the next few years with the financial state that intrawest is in. i dont see why the dont turn the first floor of the hotel into the lodge they are never going to sell any of the retail space. i suspect they are propbally thinking the same thing. either way i dont really see it happening anytime to soon.

 

[RootDKJ]

hearing that sojourn will be open this year makes me want to take a midweek trip out to MC for old times sake

 

[ERJ-145CA]

You know, there are some harsh critics out there of Mountain Creek, but I'd be psyched if an area that size existed 45 minutes from home.

It's 10 minutes from home for me but I usually drive past it on my way to Hidden Valley.

 

[hardline]

Walking in your ski boots is dumb!
just pack up your stuff in a bag . go to the bar and boot up there, then stash your bag under the stage...Wink!
if you have been to the bar you will know what I am talking about.

why would you stash it under the stage.

A. if they find it they are just going to put it in the bag check
B. why not use the free bag check in the first place.
C. why risk getting your shit stolen.

 

[jaywbigred]

I think I asked this in another thread....

Has anyone ever seen a mogul field at MC? Have they ever had one?

 

[Dr Skimeister]

I think I asked this in another thread....

Has anyone ever seen a mogul field at MC? Have they ever had one?

I know that years ago-before Intrawest-Zero G was typically left bumped on skiers' right while the left side was groomed down. With the oh-so-regular thaw/freeze cycle, those bumps would turn to sheer ice.

 

[jaywbigred]

Hmm, you think so?

Maybe I should start another thread about this, but you think their exist certain climates where moguls are not possible by reason of the freeze/thaw cycle or other weather attributes?

I guess I never really thought about that...I mean obvi, when things get bullet proof it sometimes becomes necessary to mow down bumps...but other resorts in PA and CT, for example, are able to sustain bump runs. Is the weather in Northern NJ that much different than the Poconos or CT?

 

[2knees]

Hmm, you think so?

Maybe I should start another thread about this, but you think their exist certain climates where moguls are not possible by reason of the freeze/thaw cycle or other weather attributes?

I guess I never really thought about that...I mean obvi, when things get bullet proof it sometimes becomes necessary to mow down bumps...but other resorts in PA and CT, for example, are able to sustain bump runs. Is the weather in Northern NJ that much different than the Poconos or CT?

the bumps at sundown get rough quickly but still, they're better then no bumps. the ski area just has to commit to resurfacing them from time to time. It creates whales but the net result is an improvement. Sundown rarely mows down the bumps entirely. As a matter of fact, i can only think of that happening once each year since they started seeding a run. and they were built back up immediately two of the times. the first time, they "rolled" the bumps and since the trail isnt very steep, they didnt come back all that well.

the weather in NJ is very comparable to CT. we probably get colder temps but nothing thats gonna impact the ski areas that differently.

 

[Greg]

the bumps at sundown get rough quickly but still, they're better then no bumps. the ski area just has to commit to resurfacing them from time to time. It creates whales but the net result is an improvement. Sundown rarely mows down the bumps entirely. As a matter of fact, i can only think of that happening once each year since they started seeding a run. and they were built back up immediately two of the times. the first time, they "rolled" the bumps and since the trail isnt very steep, they didnt come back all that well.

the weather in NJ is very comparable to CT. we probably get colder temps but nothing thats gonna impact the ski areas that differently.

What he said. We're extremely lucky that we have a mountain that takes their moguls as seriously as they do their terrain park. You can't half ass a bump run down here.

 

[Dr Skimeister]

Hmm, you think so?

Maybe I should start another thread about this, but you think their exist certain climates where moguls are not possible by reason of the freeze/thaw cycle or other weather attributes?

I guess I never really thought about that...I mean obvi, when things get bullet proof it sometimes becomes necessary to mow down bumps...but other resorts in PA and CT, for example, are able to sustain bump runs. Is the weather in Northern NJ that much different than the Poconos or CT?

I think we get substantially less snow here in NW NJ than PA or SNE.

I think that back when Mulvihill owned Vernon Valley/Great Gorge, they didn't have the equipment to properly groom icy moguls once they formed.

In the few times I've skiied the mountain since Intrawest bought it, I think that they wisely groom every trail every night.

 

[4aprice]

Is the weather in Northern NJ that much different than the Poconos or CT?

Can't speak for CT but in the Pocono's it can be much colder. Camelback for example has a base elevation of approximately 1300 ft. The summit elevation of Mountain Creek is around 1400ft. Summit elevation at Camelback is almost 2100 ft. I can't tell you how many times I've come down the mountain on route 80 and found the rain/snow line at Tannersville.

Alex

Lake Hopatcong, NJ