On a typical ski day, how often do you yard sale it?

[Black Phantom]

ATTN: Reckless Skiers & Riders

http://www.nsaa.org/nsaa/home/

*Always stay in control, and be able to stop or avoid other people or objects.

*People ahead of you have the right of way. It is your responsibility to avoid them.

*You must not stop where you obstruct a trail, or are not visible from above.

*Whenever starting downhill or merging into a trail, look uphill and yield to others.

*Always use devices to help prevent runaway equipment.

*Observe all posted signs and warnings. Keep off closed trails and out of closed areas.

*Prior to using any lift, you must have the knowledge and ability to load, ride and unload safely.

KNOW THE CODE. IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY.

This is a partial list. Be safety conscious.

 

[frapcap]

I had one bad fall last season. On a trail that funnels everyone towards a lift someone cut in front of me, so I scooted away to the side of the trail. Being that it was late and the light was flat I couldn't see a large divot over there. Suddenly both feet went out from under me, both bindings clicked, and I did a double eject. A perfect "10" swan dive directly onto my chest.The little birdies circled my helmet just like in the cartoons. Both skis were back in the hole.
The guy apologized when he realized what happened. What can you do, it's one of those things.

I did almost the same exact thing. I was under lift line at Stratton where a stream ran through and I didn't see the hole from the small cliff I was on until it was to late. Leaping with everything I could muster, both skis went tips first STRAIGHT into the side of the hole. I double ejected flew superman style on to the snow. Lots of "oooooh shitttttt damn! you okay?!" were heard from the lift. Must've been pretty gnarly. A little girl came along on the same exact path and as I was shaking the cobwebs out and I yelled at her to stop. Her dad thanked me once he realized what I had done.


Otherwise, yard sales happen 1-3x per season and I probably fall around twice a day. Usually in bumps or from sheer exhaustion. Never anything really dramatic though.

 

[salsgang]

Yard sales are fun when the snow is soft. Here is the result of my yard sale in a Saddleback glade. I like the tight cluster of my equipment after my wreck. It was not a long drawn out affair - went down in a heap unhurt. When I am going down I try not to fight it.

 

[Riverskier]

I only fall a couple times a season and I would like to keep it that way, as I have a shoulder that has been dislocated 4 times. Any bad fall would probably cause it to come out again. I don't think minimal falls means you aren't pushing yourself, but simply means you are skiing in control.

 

[Ski the Moguls]

http://www.nsaa.org/nsaa/home/

*Always stay in control, and be able to stop or avoid other people or objects.

*People ahead of you have the right of way. It is your responsibility to avoid them.

*You must not stop where you obstruct a trail, or are not visible from above.

*Whenever starting downhill or merging into a trail, look uphill and yield to others.

*Always use devices to help prevent runaway equipment.

*Observe all posted signs and warnings. Keep off closed trails and out of closed areas.

*Prior to using any lift, you must have the knowledge and ability to load, ride and unload safely.

KNOW THE CODE. IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY.

This is a partial list. Be safety conscious.

If the question was "How often do you run into other skiers" then I think the answer had better be: ZERO! But, if the trail is clear and/or the landing has been scouted, I have no problem with people trying to hurt themselves.

 

[Black Phantom]

If the question was "How often do you run into other skiers" then I think the answer had better be: ZERO! But, if the trail is clear and/or the landing has been scouted, I have no problem with people trying to hurt themselves.

The Code is there for your safety as well as the safety of others. Read some of the previous posts and you will find why this needs to be revisited.

When 'someone' gets hurt "trying to hurt themselves", that takes resources away from other situations. :-o

KNOW THE CODE! :beer:

 

[Cannonball]

Completely depends on the situation. I often fall (rarely yardsale) when screwing around with friends/family on open, uncrowded slopes. But most of my time is spent where falls are rare and strategic.....

 

[Ski the Moguls]

Completely depends on the situation. I often fall (rarely yardsale) when screwing around with friends/family on open, uncrowded slopes. But most of my time is spent where falls are rare and strategic.....

Skiing stuff that tight you better not yard sale it. They would not need a body bag -- they would have to use a series small of zip loc bags to pick up all the pieces!

Oh, I cannot wait until the woods look that nice again . . . maybe in December?

 

[gmcunni]

KNOW THE CODE!

and wear a helmet!

 

[BenedictGomez]

and wear a helmet!

I just ordered a helmet the other day, I must be growing up/getting wiser in my old age.

Seriously though, it will be the first time in my life skiing with a helmet, I mean, helmets were unheard of when I was learning how to ski as a kid.

 

[steamboat1]

Body armor would be more appropriate for me. I've hurt just about everywhere on my body skiing except my head.

 

[Abubob]

After a fresh snow when I'm at Ragged is when I get thrown. Usually later in the day when most everything is tracked there will still be some areas under the Spear Triple untouched. As I ride up I try to pick a line like "Over the rock, stay to the right, between those trees..." The run goes more like "Where's that rock? Crap - missed the trees, turn, turn - POW!" - double e and have to hike back up to dig out my ski - "Lets see - I came in there, turn there and my ski should be here... here? Okay start over I came in there ..."

 

[Black Phantom]

After a fresh snow when I'm at Ragged is when I get thrown. Usually later in the day when most everything is tracked there will still be some areas under the Spear Triple untouched. As I ride up I try to pick a line like "Over the rock, stay to the right, between those trees..." The run goes more like "Where's that rock? Crap - missed the trees, turn, turn - POW!" - double e and have to hike back up to dig out my ski - "Lets see - I came in there, turn there and my ski should be here... here? Okay start over I came in there ..."

Do you ever head to Vermont? Not too far a ride on Rt 4.

 

[MadPadraic]

On a typical EC groomed ice day, I make it a point to avoid falling. This means that I typically ride slower than the people I'm with, but I'm sick of broken bones.

On a typical powder or Spring day, I'll usually fall every now and then once my legs are fatigued, but never anything too bad.

 

[billski]

On a typical EC groomed ice day, I make it a point to avoid falling. This means that I typically ride slower than the people I'm with, but I'm sick of broken bones.

On a typical; powder or Spring day, I'll usually fall every now and then once my legs are fatigued, but never anything too bad.

The trails that scare me the most are the scraped off blues. Difficult to get enough edge, when you're constantly dodging the masses, any one of which could explode in front of you at any moment. Those are my scariest yard sales.

The nicest yard sales are in deep pow, when nobody can see how bad your fall was!

The most memorable (I did not say good) YS was at St. Anton. three feet of freshies building to four feet in places. Ski went off t and it took 20 mins to find it. Nothing worse than wasting good time away from skiing. Wished I had straps...

 

[Highway Star]

I'd have to say I fall at least 2 - 3x per day on the slopes. Typically happens either in moguls or a terrain park, not really on groomers (ever?).

You need bindings that aren't absolutely horrible. Let me guess.....you have 11 din markers....?

I figured out in about 1998 that when I was falling, 90% of time it was because my bindings released when they shouldn't of have. This was on 14 din marker "racing" bindings. Got some all metal 11-17 din salomons and it was quite the eye opener.

I ski 2 points above my level III+ setting (note the "+", which is another step up on the din table...so I'm at like a level 5 or 6 if such a thing existed). Bindings still come off, but it takes some force. If I try to ski a normal level III setting, I will pre-release once per run.

I never released out of a binding last season, or yet this year. Nor did I crash, but had a few minor falls over the course of the season.

Once you can safely assume that your bindings are not going to come off, your skiing style changes dramaticly. You can put much more force into a ski and ride it through much rougher snow at higher speeds, and trust it's consistancy.

 

[Ski the Moguls]

You need bindings that aren't absolutely horrible. Let me guess.....you have 11 din markers....?

I figured out in about 1998 that when I was falling, 90% of time it was because my bindings released when they shouldn't of have. This was on 14 din marker "racing" bindings. Got some all metal 11-17 din salomons and it was quite the eye opener.

I ski 2 points above my level III+ setting (note the "+", which is another step up on the din table...so I'm at like a level 5 or 6 if such a thing existed). Bindings still come off, but it takes some force. If I try to ski a normal level III setting, I will pre-release once per run.

I never released out of a binding last season, or yet this year. Nor did I crash, but had a few minor falls over the course of the season.

Once you can safely assume that your bindings are not going to come off, your skiing style changes dramaticly. You can put much more force into a ski and ride it through much rougher snow at higher speeds, and trust it's consistancy.

Careful when recommending higher binding release settings. Mine were set at DIN 6 (relatively small feet means a lower DIN for me) when I took a slow, twisting fall in the moguls. One ski tip buried and stayed put while the rest of me slowly spun. Just before the binding released I felt the MCL go. Luckily it was just a bad sprain and not a tear. Now I set them even lower.

High binding settings are fine it your fall are hard. But in a slow fall those higher settings can really hurt you.

 

[Highway Star]

Careful when recommending higher binding release settings. Mine were set at DIN 6 (relatively small feet means a lower DIN for me) when I took a slow, twisting fall in the moguls. One ski tip buried and stayed put while the rest of me slowly spun. Just before the binding released I felt the MCL go. Luckily it was just a bad sprain and not a tear. Now I set them even lower.

High binding settings are fine it your fall are hard. But in a slow fall those higher settings can really hurt you.

I've slow twisted out of metal salomons at 14 din.....sooo....?

 

[Ski the Moguls]

Careful when recommending higher binding release settings. Mine were set at DIN 6 (relatively small feet means a lower DIN for me) when I took a slow, twisting fall in the moguls. One ski tip buried and stayed put while the rest of me slowly spun. Just before the binding released I felt the MCL go. Luckily it was just a bad sprain and not a tear. Now I set them even lower.

High binding settings are fine it your fall are hard. But in a slow fall those higher settings can really hurt you.

I've slow twisted out of metal salomons at 14 din.....sooo....?

I am not an expert on setting bindings. I suspect that if I had had my bindings cranked up any tighter in my above described fall then I would have needed an operation instead of just a couple months rest. What I am saying is that making a blanket statement that tighter bindings are better may be dangerous. I just wanted to point out the risk.

 

[Northernflight]

Usually for me at-least one fall every day I ski. If its a groomer day I will either slide out once, or not fall. If there is a lot of powder Ill most defiantly take a spill towards the end of the day, that stuff is tiring! Ive never really hurt myself yet, knock on wood. Worst I did was knock the wind out of myself last year at Bretton Woods opening day. For the most part my experience has been falling is fun!