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Permanent Industry Changes in the Post-COVID World

VTKilarney

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Biden's agenda is now dead in the water. Way too many purple state Democrats are going to run for the hills. This is bad news for Biden, but the good news is that he will probably forget that it even happened by dinner time.

Virginia Republicans elected a black female Lieutenant Governor, a Cuban-American Attorney General, and replaced a Dem governor who wore an actual KKK outfit. Former Biden voters, working class people, and Latinos voted Republican in droves. A 75% Hispanic county in Texas flipped red. This clearly wasn't all about "racism" - despite what MSNBC may have you believe.

People are sick of the partisanship. McAuliffe could barely utter a sentence without invoking Trump - and disingenuously painted Youngkin as the spawn of Trump. Youngkin distanced himself from Trump and stressed that he wanted to reach out across the aisle and work collaboratively to get things done for the people of Virginia. Guess which message resonated with the voters...
 

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The ambu bag or on mountain, bet patrol's carry the pocket breathing mask with one way check valves. We have those on all our attended large cabin aircraft for CPR since it could be an extended event compared to being on the ground.
In the Covid Era NO ONE is doing 2 man rescue breathing anymore.
BVM w/ compressions and an AED is what you get.

The one way valve masks allow for airflow from rescuer's mouth/lungs into the Pt.
Simply put, No one wants/does that anymore, as chest compressions alone are proven to be as effective.

Plus, it's the AED that is going to save your life.
CPR just keeps you alive (barely) until the AED arrives.
 
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Biden's agenda is now dead in the water. Way too many purple state Democrats are going to run for the hills. This is bad news for Biden, but the good news is that he will probably forget that it even happened by dinner time.

Virginia Republicans elected a black female Lieutenant Governor, a Cuban-American Attorney General, and replaced a Dem governor who wore an actual KKK outfit. Former Biden voters, working class people, and Latinos voted Republican in droves. A 75% Hispanic county in Texas flipped red. This clearly wasn't all about "racism" - despite what MSNBC may have you believe.

People are sick of the partisanship. McAuliffe could barely utter a sentence without invoking Trump - and disingenuously painted Youngkin as the spawn of Trump. Youngkin distanced himself from Trump and stressed that he wanted to reach out across the aisle and work collaboratively to get things done for the people of Virginia. Guess which message resonated with the voters...

‘Let’s Go Brandon’ chant a ‘complete indictment’ of the US media​

 

boston_e

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Youngkin distanced himself from Trump and stressed that he wanted to reach out across the aisle and work collaboratively to get things done for the people of Virginia. Guess which message resonated with the voters...

Interesting that this is pretty much exactly what Biden did to get elected as well.
 

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I am guessing with many companies, this is more about not wanting to face gov't agency fines more than it is about giving their employees the option to wear, or not wear a mask
“Companies”? I heaven’t heard too many (mandating vaccines)!

Healthcare settings, perhaps. The rest of the private sectors don’t have any government involvements to speak of. It’s largely just which set of employees you’re willing to piss off.

Many companies however, are requiring their new hires to be vaccinated. Not so much of existing staffs
 

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Maybe do your thing and tell him to not be political on the forum.
My opinions are based on my work experience, having worked for the top residential builder in the DC metro area I was sent to take care of problems at the homes of their toughest clients ( ie ones they couldn’t take advantage of) the former president of the National building museum, the owner of the Capital’s hockey team, the top lawyer in the county (as some believe) who jumped into the NFL strike years ago to get it settled for 911 aniversary (his wife parrished during 911) he also got sport gambling legalized for the gov on NJ a few years ago, I told him it’s good to get those NJ people on your side 😉, his wife is a big democratic and a lawyer herself, that’s were I got the info on the Va governors race going to Younkin
the head of the NRA , and quite a few more, friends would ask “do you only work for Republicans “? I say no but they are the strong ones who get shit done for our country
the one time I was sent to a Democrats home for an emergency it was one of the owners of total wine and beverage (Trone) the reason I was sent there was because my boss was an alcoholic and the Trone’s hooked him up, so I would use my sick day the next time because the Trones are spoiled people, the wife showed me a room dedicated for gifts for her kids, spoied brats
 

machski

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wonder if the other Boyne resorts will be like this as well.
Loon is currently requiring face coverings in all lodges unless eating and outside when social distance cannot be maintained. This is due to the fact they operate on federal land (according to them). The word I heard is that chairs will not require masks this winter, though the above wording could change that. The Gondola I have heard WILL require face coverings. Whether the new Kanc8 will or won't I don't know. They haven't posted their winter protocols yet, though they have started making snow above Grand Junction.
 

VTKilarney

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The new OSHA rule came out today for employers with at least 100 employees - which includes almost all ski areas since part time employees are counted in that total.

A couple of highlights:
1) Unvaccinated employees don't just have to test every week - they have to provide their employer with a test result every seven days. If they don't yet have the test result, they can't show up to work.
2) All unvaccinated employees must wear masks.

It will be interesting to see how much pushback we will see from workers who are central to our infrastructure (airlines, truckers, etc.) It will also be interesting to see if this impacts ski areas, since the unvaccinated tend to skew young and blue collar.
 

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The new OSHA rule came out today for employers with at least 100 employees - which includes almost all ski areas since part time employees are counted in that total.

A couple of highlights:
1) Unvaccinated employees don't just have to test every week - they have to provide their employer with a test result every seven days. If they don't yet have the test result, they can't show up to work.
2) All unvaccinated employees must wear masks.

It will be interesting to see how much pushback we will see from workers who are central to our infrastructure (airlines, truckers, etc.) It will also be interesting to see if this impacts ski areas, since the unvaccinated tend to skew young and blue collar.

I think the most certain thing about this is that a bunch of attornies will be racking up a bunch of billable hours both trying to get this mandate overturned as well as upheld, depending on whom if paying them....
 

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The new OSHA rule came out today for employers with at least 100 employees - which includes almost all ski areas since part time employees are counted in that total.

A couple of highlights:
1) Unvaccinated employees don't just have to test every week - they have to provide their employer with a test result every seven days. If they don't yet have the test result, they can't show up to work.
2) All unvaccinated employees must wear masks.

It will be interesting to see how much pushback we will see from workers who are central to our infrastructure (airlines, truckers, etc.) It will also be interesting to see if this impacts ski areas, since the unvaccinated tend to skew young and blue collar.
and they have to pay $150 every week for that test.
 

drjeff

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and they have to pay $150 every week for that test.

The biggest issue I have with how the Gov't is handling this, and for the record, I am Moderna double dosed, and am rolling my sleeve up tomorrow for my booster, is the basically complete denial of the government of the role that natural immunity plays for those who have had Covid and recovered.

To not even acknowledge that just makes little immunological sense. And yes I fully get that not all tests for antibodies are equal.

Whether or not its coincedence or not, is does seems like the mantra of "trust/follow the science" seems to be uttered less and less these days, especially comapred to earlier this year as vaccinations for the masses were underway
 

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The biggest issue I have with how the Gov't is handling this, and for the record, I am Moderna double dosed, and am rolling my sleeve up tomorrow for my booster, is the basically complete denial of the government of the role that natural immunity plays for those who have had Covid and recovered.

To not even acknowledge that just makes little immunological sense. And yes I fully get that not all tests for antibodies are equal.

Whether or not its coincedence or not, is does seems like the mantra of "trust/follow the science" seems to be uttered less and less these days, especially comapred to earlier this year as vaccinations for the masses were underway
I’m getting my booster today and I feel the exact same way, trust/follow science has given way to have faith/believe. My friend just had Covid a month ago and now they’re making him get vaccinated for his job. In my opinion (no medical background so I could be wrong) he probably has better protection and less chance of transmission than someone who got their vaccine when they first became available.
 

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I’m getting my booster today and I feel the exact same way, trust/follow science has given way to have faith/believe. My friend just had Covid a month ago and now they’re making him get vaccinated for his job. In my opinion (no medical background so I could be wrong) he probably has better protection and less chance of transmission than someone who got their vaccine when they first became available.
This may be true - but at least some research is showing that the best protection of all is hybrid immunity (people who have both recovered from Covid and have had a vaccine), and with basically no real negatives to getting vaccinated, why not get it anyway and be doubly protected?
 

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This may be true - but at least some research is showing that the best protection of all is hybrid immunity (people who have both recovered from Covid and have had a vaccine), and with basically no real negatives to getting vaccinated, why not get it anyway and be doubly protected?
I definitely agree, I’m just wondering whats going to happen in ~6 months with the unboostered.
 
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