Worst Ski Season Ever?

[AdironRider]

Yeah but the greatest rock and roll wasn't necessarily created by virtuosos:

MC5
Chuck Berry
Faces
Rolling Stones

Just saying...

And the same goes for roots music ...Flying Burrito Brothers, Gene Clark, Louvin Brothers



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Chuck Berry was arguably more talented than Trey, and he said so himself so to speak when he (and a panel) ranked him No. 7 of all time in Rolling Stone. He only invented Rock and Roll.

 

[deadheadskier]

I never said MIke Gordon was THE best, I said ONE of and you're a moron for believing the assault stories. I like Flea, he isn't in the same stratosphere as Gordon regarding technical ability. Victor I'll give you is better, Gordon has the ability of the others you listed easily. If you're trying to prove a point at least use someone like Jaco Pastorious as an example so you somewhat look like you know what you're talking about.

Fanbases almost "exclusively" chasing a lifestyle. Okay dude. You see that on a documentary? I suppose you think all who listen to Garth Brooks are fall down shitty lite beer drinking drunks who drive around in their pick up trucks talking about their dog dying, woman leaving them and how much they donate to the NRA. Or that everyone who listens to rap music has gold teeth and carries a Glock in their shorts.

 

[AdironRider]

I never said MIke Gordon was THE best, I said ONE of and you're a moron for believing the assault stories. I like Flea, he isn't in the same stratosphere as Gordon regarding technical ability. Victor I'll give you is better, Gordon has the ability of the others you listed easily. If you're trying to prove a point at least use someone like Jaco Pastorious as an example so you somewhat look like you know what you're talking about.

Fanbases almost "exclusively" chasing a lifestyle. Okay dude. You see that on a documentary? I suppose you think all who listen to Garth Brooks are fall down shitty lite beer drinking drunks who drive around in their pick up trucks talking about their dog dying, woman leaving them and how much they donate to the NRA. Or that everyone who listens to rap music has gold teeth and carries a Glock in their shorts.

Don't get your panties in a bunch, like I said its all subjective. Jaco is great, made sure my wedding band had a little Jaco thrown in. True story. Your blind love is showing though.

And please, he got caught taking photos of a 9 year old in boathouse at 1 in the morning at a Grateful Dead show. Miraculously, after he "met" with the girls parents, they dropped charges. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize they got PAID (they did get an off the record beatdown in courtesy of the Hells Angels). I would argue it probably wasn't a great idea to bring a 9 year old to a Dead show in the first place, but he still did it.

Concerning Trey, I would argue both John Mayer and Derek Trucks are more talented and have greater range, and that is just the current guys. Of all time, Jeff Beck is probably the greatest pure talent wise, Van Halen the most technically proficient, and Jimi Hendrix the most creative and pure (now talk about subjective for that category).

 

[AdironRider]

Garth Brooks is probably not the best example, but when you are one of the most successful (financially) artists of all time, its pretty hard to argue he has just one type, but middle aged middle Americans make up the vast majority of his fan base.

Phish definitely attracts a certain group of people. Its not a terrible thing for me (maybe BG). Its like trying to argue UVM doesn't attract a certain type of applicant. I'm sure they have an asian violist somewhere, and a couple D1 basketball and hockey players, but the vast majority of the student body are the types that go to Phish concerts.

 

[deadheadskier]

Love Trucks, doesn't have close to the versatility of Trey. Great Blues and Slide player, but that's about it. Mayer......LOLOLOLOL. thanks for the laugh.

As a comparison, both have been hired to play in Dead projects. Trey deconstructed each song learning them in all 12 keys as well as went back and studied people like Django Reinhardt who influenced Garcia. Mayer sounds like he read some tablature and figured out how to mix in some blues licks.

No panties in a bunch at all. It's a good laugh reading the irrational arguments and stereotypes. You're good at them!

 

[BenedictGomez]

And that's fine. I was mainly addressing BGs comments that Phish is about the lifestyle and not the music. That's a grossly inaccurate stereotype that demonstrates a fundamental lack of understanding about musical ability.

I'll stand by it being pretty accurate re: the average Phish fan.

Meaning, you pluck a random Phish fan from the concert bowl, and you probably get a kid who's really into weed, who like's the minimalist lifestyle (even though they're probably a trust-fund baby from Greenwich, CT), and is into a certain movement (that changes, likely often), and are very gregarious with each other and share similar views. We disagree, fine, but I think that's fairly accurate.

These are four masters, some of the most well studied and technically proficient musicians in the world. That's what I appreciate about them.

You really dont view this as being way over-the-top?

Phish definitely attracts a certain group of people. Its not a terrible thing for me (maybe BG). Its like trying to argue UVM doesn't attract a certain type of applicant. I'm sure they have an asian violist somewhere, and a couple D1 basketball and hockey players, but the vast majority of the student body are the types that go to Phish concerts.

Basically this, yes, that's pretty much what I'm saying.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

 

[deadheadskier]

Yay stereotypes!!!!

 

[AdironRider]

I know you and I haven't paid nice in the past, but put that behind you and enjoy just talking music for a change.

For someone who doesn't like stereotypes, take the top 40 radio image out of your head and John Mayer rips. Case in point:

And I personally rank Prince way up there. Love this from the Hall of Fame tribute. Petty all pissed that he gets one upped, and that young buck in the background just like "holy shit". Steve Winwood (a true prodigy) just holding it down in the background.

 

[AdironRider]

Since I can only embed one video at a time (come on admins!)

 

[AdironRider]

Eric Clapton also said Derek Trucks "was a bottomless pit" in terms of his versatility. I'll take Clapton's assessment over yours no offense. Dude is like 35 and is already considered one of the all time greats. Kid was touring at age 12, and stepped in for Duane Allman of all people at age 19 or something.

PS - Learning a dead song in 12 keys is not impressive for anyone with musical training. Thats like what they teach 12 year olds in guitar lessons.

 

[witch hobble]

and stepped in for Duane Allman of all people at age 19

Dickey Betts you mean.

 

[deadheadskier]

I saw Derek live for the first time when he was probably 17. I've seen probably 30 times since. He's a phenomenal blues guitarist, way better than Trey in that one style. Have I ever seen him play bluegrass? No. Jazz? No. Sat in with NY Philharmonic? No. He's amazing, but highly predictable. Can't say the same about Trey. The breadth of his work is just far broader.

 

[BenedictGomez]

Yay stereotypes!!!!

Clearly; but I think there's truth to every stereotype or XYZ stereotype wouldn't have been born in the first place.

PS - Learning a dead song in 12 keys is not impressive for anyone with musical training. Thats like what they teach 12 year olds in guitar lessons.

Uh...oh....

(((((((AdironRider just tossed a hand grenade down a narrow hallway))))))

 

[witch hobble]

To be a virtuoso has a nerdish, studious component. Phish has that.

rock and roll by its nature is primal and instinctive. Not honed. Much of the best rock and roll has been made by people who can't read music.

 

[deadheadskier]

BG - you're not well versed in music and you're even worse on the humor front.

Stick to being a wannabe federal reserve chief. You're at least good at that.

 

[BenedictGomez]

BG - you're not well versed in music and you're even worse on the humor front.

Stick to being a wannabe federal reserve chief. You're at least good at that.

How many different instruments do you play? (Wondering how many it takes)

 

[cdskier]

Hmm...what the heck happened to this thread? I thought it was about whether this was the worst ski season ever...

 

[Cannonball]

Hmm...what the heck happened to this thread? I thought it was about whether this was the worst ski season ever...

What happened to this thread PROVES that this is the worst season ever.

 

[SnoDevil97]

Conditions may not have been all that great, but still enjoyed getting out with my family & friends this season. Hoping conditions will be better next season with La Nina in effect.

 

[Not Sure]

From Elk
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