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Do you earn turns after the lifts close?
- Thread starter Greg
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kingdom-tele
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AJ - can't speak for other mtns but up here it isn't a big deal, we hike the mtn before the season and during the season before lift ops start, wave to patrol, have a quick chat, no one bothers or questions, I have never had or heard of someone being asked to not climb a mtn -
David Metsky
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That's not universally true. Check with your local area (or they may check on you). Most don't mind, but some do.
-dave-
andyzee
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I believe that if it's state land, they don't really have anything to say about it, preseason, postseason, or even during the season.
riverc0il
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Untrue. Cannon, for example, has publicly posted signs that hiking is not permitted on the ski trails. However, they certainly do not enforce the rule as Cannon is a popular pre- and post- season earned turn destination. Ski areas can dictate use of land with safety concerns in mind even on publicly owned land. Most ski areas would certainly frown on earned turns while the ski area is in operation.
Hawkshot99
Active member
When I was up at Killington earlier in the year, we came around the corner of a real windy trail to see a guy skinning up the middle of the trail. It amazes me that some people would do this.
andyzee
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I have no clue as to what the laws are so I can't debate anything. But, anyone can put up a sign, the issue is, can they enforce the rules.
RootDKJ
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I have been thinking about trying this for the first time this year. Where do you folks generally do this? Catskills, Poconos?
Euler
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What kind of gear do you folks use when hiking-skiing? Are you all one tele/AT gear? Or, do any of you carry up ski boots in a pack and put them on at the top?
klrskiah
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I wish i had an AT setup, but its sooo damn expensive... maybe this fall. until them it's strap em on my pack and hike.
for tux alot people have regular alpine setup, but with AT/tele i'd imagine you have so many more options. Has anyone seen the AT binding inserts that attach to a regular alpine binding for skinning?? are they worth it/do they work for someone who might use them 3-4 times a year or is it a joke ?
Euler
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I wish i had an AT setup, but its sooo damn expensive... maybe this fall. until them it's strap em on my pack and hike.
Has anyone seen the AT binding inserts that attach to a regular alpine binding for skinning?? are they worth it/do they work for someone who might use them 3-4 times a year or is it a joke ?
Do you carry your ski boots in your pack and change at the top? I can't imagine hiking in my ski boots.
Tyrolean_skier
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When I have hiked before the lifts started turning and after they stopped turning, I've put my ski boots in my backpack and put the skis on the backpack as well. I generally wear my helmet because otherwise I get hit by the skis in the head. It's not easy to climb uphill with all that weight on your back but it's what you must do to get your turns in when the lifts are not running. Last year, on the last day I skied, I hiked the snow on Outer Limits several times in my ski boots and carried my skis but that was a short hike compared to the hike we usually do over to the Canyon area. In the beginning of the season, we usually hike up to the Glades area and once there some of us will hike the trails multiple times in their ski boots.
riverc0il
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Depends on the conditions. Generally, I prefer to skin on AT gear but will strap skis and boots to my pack when things start melting out. Early season, if there is deep powder, you would probably want snow shoes if you don't have skins.
The price is worth it. You can find some cheaper options and cheap ways to get into the sport. If you already have Alpine Gear, you really only need an Alpine Boot compatible binding, telescoping poles, and skins (and a pack if you don't have one). Though I always suggest getting the best gear up front because you will eventually upgrade. Soon enough though, most folks want a complete separate setup just for AT. :grin:I wish i had an AT setup, but its sooo damn expensive... maybe this fall. until them it's strap em on my pack and hike.
The consensus on Alpine Trekkers seems to be they have their place for extremely limited skinning and side country for those that don't use them very often. They cost about half as much as an Alpine Boot compatible Binder, might as well just go all the way, IMO.
In warmer weather (such as hiking to Tuckerman Ravine in the Spring), hiking with boots on the backpack is generally not a problem. I have hiked with AT boots and have been pleasantly surprised at their agreeableness to hiking. In cold weather, hiking with boots on a pack could get ugly when you try to put your boots on after hiking :blink: If you are ascending straight up the snow pack, such as Superstar after the lifts are closed, I would typically climb up the snow pack with ski boots on.
from_the_NEK
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If not skinning I prefer to hike in my boots. It is really not that uncomfortable if you leave them a bit loose. I have hiked to the top of Burke several times this way.
This year the morning after the Valentine's blizzard, I skinned up Burke and a few of the other guys I was with chose to carry their boots in their pack. It was very cold and windy and they were BARELY able to get the stiff cold boots on. As long as it it warm, carrying the boots in your pack isn't a problem but they are heavy and take up a lot of room that you could use for a beer instead (especially if you are hiking into Tucks
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andyzee
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from_the_NEK, good point about the boots. Before this season started, I hiked up Killington. My boots didn't fit into my backpack so I just put them on my skis and then secured the skis to my backpack. Figured, wow, that's a good way to carry them. When I got to the top, I found my boots full of snow from the snow guns we walked under. And they were stiff as could be from the cold, making it difficult to put them on. Live and learn
from the snow guns we walked under. And they were stiff as could be from the cold, making it difficult to put them on. Live and learn David Metsky
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They've been enforcing that rule at Cannon for decades. It all depends on the way the rules and leases are written. In this case, I don't think there is much doubt that they have that right. Wachusett is another mountain that has busted people pre/post season, but they have a more complex relationship with access via the state park road. You will often see uphill skiers at Wildcat for people bagging the 4000'ers. They usually stay to the side of the Polecat trail.
I have tele gear, so I skin up as needed, and hike when there's no snow down low. The boots are very comfy to hike in if needed. I'll skin up to GoS but boot up to Tuckerman due to the firm condition of the Tuckerman Ravine trail.
-dave-
bigbog
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the solution to cold/snow-filled boots....
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Steve
What does work pretty well...are a few round pieces of neoprene, fitted by creating a hem/ridge and sewing on some stretchy elastic strips around the edges to form the outer ring that'll then stretch around and grip the outer cuffs...to hold throughout the onslaught from snowguns...works great. Just get them large enough so that they get down beyond the buckles...from_the_NEK, good point about the boots. Before this season started, I hiked up Killington. My boots didn't fit into my backpack so I just put them on my skis and then secured the skis to my backpack. Figured, wow, that's a good way to carry them. When I got to the top, I found my boots full of snow
$.01
Steve
SkiDog
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I wish i had an AT setup, but its sooo damn expensive... maybe this fall. until them it's strap em on my pack and hike.
Has anyone seen the AT binding inserts that attach to a regular alpine binding for skinning?? are they worth it/do they work for someone who might use them 3-4 times a year or is it a joke ?
Product called ALPINE TREKKERS will work fine for this type application. You sit pretty high on them since they are an insert..but a great way to get into BC skiing without paying for all the gear.
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bigbog
Active member
Trekkers....ready, waiting to be used
Yep, well...they were pretty cheap locally, picked them up...can't wait to give them a try. I have looked for the newer Scarpas, as well as the Denalis(they would need a lot of bootwork..but not out of mind!..cause they're a nice boot flex-wise!), but haven't found the Spirit 3s....maybe a pair exists over in N.Conway in my size to at least try on...but I'll see how the Trekkers work...from here on till meltdown.
Yep, well...they were pretty cheap locally, picked them up...can't wait to give them a try. I have looked for the newer Scarpas, as well as the Denalis(they would need a lot of bootwork..but not out of mind!..cause they're a nice boot flex-wise!), but haven't found the Spirit 3s....maybe a pair exists over in N.Conway in my size to at least try on...but I'll see how the Trekkers work...from here on till meltdown.
