Progress on Deer Valley's New Sister Resort

[BenedictGomez]

Not to sound like an Alta snob but that is an insane amount of $$$ to cat ski Deer freaking Valley.

Deer Valley sells a $2,000 cheeseburger.

 

[Tonyr]

2k per person for a couple of cat rides up the new terrain, if that really is the cost, is going to be a tough sell most weekends I'd guess.

 

[kingslug]

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[thetrailboss]

2k per person for a couple of cat rides up the new terrain, if that really is the cost, is going to be a tough sell most weekends I'd guess.

You'd be surprised. There is a lot of money being thrown around in DV and PC.

 

[thetrailboss]

One hotel is now open for business. More details as to how this came to be and what this development replaced.

Deer Valley’s first East Village hotel was built with the military in mind. Here’s a peek inside.

The Grand Hyatt Deer Valley, which debuted in November as the first hotel in the ski resort's East Village expanded terrain, is billed as "a new standard of mountain adventure and hospitality." Here's what it will offer, and what a night will cost.

www.sltrib.com

 

[Former Sunday Rivah Rat]

One hotel is now open for business. More details as to how this came to be and what this development replaced.

Deer Valley’s first East Village hotel was built with the military in mind. Here’s a peek inside.

The Grand Hyatt Deer Valley, which debuted in November as the first hotel in the ski resort's East Village expanded terrain, is billed as "a new standard of mountain adventure and hospitality." Here's what it will offer, and what a night will cost.

www.sltrib.com

"Grand Hyatt Deer Valley, the nation’s first public-private military hotel"​

Maybe Deer Valley wants to invade and conquer Park City? Are the storm troopers up to the challenge?

 

[urungus]

All this to replace the eight-room Hillhaus Lodge barracks at Snowbasin

 

[abc]

Those same pictures that got posted thousands times, someone think it’s funny? Yeah, broken record is funny when you’re that bored.

But I just figured it out. If I don’t login, the picture became thumb nails! My eyes don’t get assaulted by such childish repetition.

(Has the side benefit of discouraging me from posting on threads that has no real relevance to me too! — except when I’m seriously bored)

 

[BenedictGomez]

Imagine that at a party.

 

[BenedictGomez]

Pouring rain here at 6,850 feet a little while ago, which is the Mayflower base level. They've lost all snow other than man-made at base level, so I can report that place cant handle a "worst ski season in 35 years" event, but last year with above average snowfall it was solid through April close. So after a few datapoints now I think with at least "average" years that side of Deer Valley will be okay, but in poor snow years not-so-much. I imagine this isnt doing wonders for their real estate sales though (serves them right).

 

[Tonyr]

The Grand Hyatt Residences sold out almost immediately. I'm guessing the Four Seasons Residences will too when they go up for sale. As someone mentioned earlier, worst case scenario, Deer Valley East is going to be a gateway over to the main resort. What will be most important for DV East home owners is how well the base village gets built out.

 

[thetrailboss]

SkiUtah just posted the latest episode of its podcast and it was about this expansion. I started listening and then heard that the guest was none other than Extell's President Gary Barnett. I immediately stopped listening.

 

[thetrailboss]

I just visited DV on Monday, using one of my "Wasatch Benefit Days" from my Alta/Bird pass, and focused on the new terrain.

For positives, the ability to now ski a continuous 3,000 vertical foot drop is impressive and it is on the Sultan Side of the resort, which I enjoy. Prior to this, Deer Valley's "true" vertical was much less because one cannot ski from the top of Empire down to the base of Jordanelle. This is a huge change. The sheer amount of terrain is impressive. The upper aspects offer some good variety. This will help increase traffic on the Mayflower Triple and area which, historically, is underused. The Green Monster is a really nice, albeit flat, long run. Snowmaking infrastructure on the lower aspects is more than adequate. The new six-pack is nice.

Now the negatives. As I had said, and expected, the snowpack below Sultan is abysmal. For an "average" snow year, there was grass, dirt, and scrub visible off the trails. The lower parts of Green Monster had no snowmaking and consisted of maybe a 6-10 inch ice base. Rocks were here and there. Even Carbenite up high was icy and thin cover. Except for a few isolated stretches, below Mayflower Triple and Sultan the pitch becomes pretty flat and boring. Currently, anyone coming from Sultan has to ride a (relatively) slow and short fixed grip quad to get high enough to ride the new six-pack. This is weird especially considering that they had a blank slate with which to work and should have made the lowest point the new HSQ and HS-6. It is reminiscent of looker's right of Canyons. The lower trails are all pretty similar, although Lady of the Lake had a couple trees and knolls to add character. The number of new HS lifts is overwhelming and most only provide access to like 2-3 trails. The temporary lodge is a modular unit with trailer toilets.

Overall as expected. The 3,000 feet of continuous vertical is a real gamechanger.

 

[kingslug]

Remember this is after a 10 day drought.
I skied there the 19th during a storm and it was pretty good. The shuttle on the other hand was definately not designed by a skier..

 

[Tonyr]

A Hilton is coming to the East Village...

Extell Development and Hilton Announce Plans for a Canopy by Hilton Hotel at New Deer Valley, UT, East Village - SnowBrains

PARK CITY, UT – (March 19, 2025) – New York-based Extell Development Company, a full-service national real estate developer of residential, commercial, and hospitality properties, and leading global hospitality company, Hilton (NYSE: HLT), today announced the signing of an agreement for a...

snowbrains.com

 

[BenedictGomez]

I really dont understand all the new hotel capacity being built, as it's not like there's a shortage of lodging here. I guess it makes sense if you think you can keep filling it at $800/night, but seems risky to me, especially given it's not in Park City (regardless of how they claim it is).

 

[thetrailboss]

I really dont understand all the new hotel capacity being built, as it's not like there's a shortage of lodging here. I guess it makes sense if you think you can keep filling it at $800/night, but seems risky to me, especially given it's not in Park City (regardless of how they claim it is).

I’ve got to think that Extell is moving from Step 2 to Step 3 of the business plan soon but not quite yet at “Bro Down.” They’ve already sold out the skiing piece to DV.

 

[Tonyr]

I really dont understand all the new hotel capacity being built, as it's not like there's a shortage of lodging here. I guess it makes sense if you think you can keep filling it at $800/night, but seems risky to me, especially given it's not in Park City (regardless of how they claim it is).

With extra hotels in the area it may bring down hotel room prices across the board. I didn't think the drive into town from the East Village was bad. It takes 18 minutes, compared to the drive from Canyons Village it's 12 minutes. Not a big difference. The issue with the East Village area now is there is no place to go for food other than what's in the Grand Hyatt.

 

[machski]

With extra hotels in the area it may bring down hotel room prices across the board. I didn't think the drive into town from the East Village was bad. It takes 18 minutes, compared to the drive from Canyons Village it's 12 minutes. Not a big difference. The issue with the East Village area now is there is no place to go for food other than what's in the Grand Hyatt.

True for now on the food options. But as that village location starts to infill with room capacity, dining and beverage options should expand quite a bit. Hard to plunk those establishments down before you have the foot traffic density to support in an out of town village location.

 

[drjeff]

True for now on the food options. But as that village location starts to infill with room capacity, dining and beverage options should expand quite a bit. Hard to plunk those establishments down before you have the foot traffic density to support in an out of town village location.

Agree!

It's like the Seaport Distrcit in Boston, when they 1st built the Convention Center there, it was pretty barren for surrounding hotel rooms, dining options, etc. Now it's full of dining and entertainment and room options, but that process took a solid 15 years, and had the Covid year shenanigans some what in the middle of what was a decent growth phase for the area, before getting back on the growth trajectory