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Progress on Deer Valley's New Sister Resort

BenedictGomez

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The solution is to have the majority of residents who don't like the spending/investment vote out the elected officials who approved it.

Not probable.

For instance, they just rewrote all the Dark Sky Laws back here so that the Mormon Church can build a massive industrial temple which will be lit up all night long. It will be the largest building on the entire Wasatch Back & it will stick out like a sore thumb, visible from literally MILES away. The rules were intentionally altered in such a way that the LDS Church got precisely what it asked for. The good news is that yesterday Wasatch County was more Mormon than it is today, and today Wasatch County is more Mormon than it will be tomorrow. Nobody moving here is LDS. But your very rational suggestion to have, " the majority of residents who don't like the spending/investment vote out the elected officials who approved it", simply cannot happen today, because there is X percentage of the population who will only vote for LDS candidates (they'll deny this if asked), so for the most part only LDS people can win. In fact, when we get political mailers before an election, there's almost always a very subtle, "wink wink, nudge, nudge, FYI I'm LDS" message or factoid dropped in there as a tell.

That said, the LDS influence is 1001% worse on the Wasatch Front, so I really shouldn't be bitching. This Institutional Temple approval is really the only time I've felt the "power" of the LDS Church since I've lived here, for Utah they are "weak" in power back here, but if you live on the Front, I doubt 12 days passes without you feeling that influence.
 

Tonyr

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Not probable.

For instance, they just rewrote all the Dark Sky Laws back here so that the Mormon Church can build a massive industrial temple which will be lit up all night long. It will be the largest building on the entire Wasatch Back & it will stick out like a sore thumb, visible from literally MILES away. The rules were intentionally altered in such a way that the LDS Church got precisely what it asked for. The good news is that yesterday Wasatch County was more Mormon than it is today, and today Wasatch County is more Mormon than it will be tomorrow. Nobody moving here is LDS. But your very rational suggestion to have, " the majority of residents who don't like the spending/investment vote out the elected officials who approved it", simply cannot happen today, because there is X percentage of the population who will only vote for LDS candidates (they'll deny this if asked), so for the most part only LDS people can win. In fact, when we get political mailers before an election, there's almost always a very subtle, "wink wink, nudge, nudge, FYI I'm LDS" message or factoid dropped in there as a tell.

That said, the LDS influence is 1001% worse on the Wasatch Front, so I really shouldn't be bitching. This Institutional Temple approval is really the only time I've felt the "power" of the LDS Church since I've lived here, for Utah they are "weak" in power back here, but if you live on the Front, I doubt 12 days passes without you feeling that influence.
One of the beautiful things about living in the US is that if you don't like the politics of a certain state, you can move to a different one more aligned with your thoughts on how things should be done. The only other alternative, if you cant vote your elected officials out, is to stay put and deal with what they think the majority of the population prefers.

In our great state of NY, the governor feels that the majority of New Yorkers want a $9 daily congestion tax, that increases to $15 per day by 2030, placed on cars driving into NYC for the sake of less traffic and a cleaner environment so that's what we are going to get starting in January.

This is on top of the $17 toll to enter New City in the first place, but it will make the environment cleaner while allowing the city/state to issue a 15 billion dollar municipal bond against the future congestion tax revenue which they will then spend those proceeds on other local projects. Although you probably know all of this since you used to live in the area.
 
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raisingarizona

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One of the beautiful things about living in the US is that if you don't like the politics of a certain state, you can move to a different one more aligned with your thoughts on how things should be done. The only other alternative, if you cant vote your elected officials out, is to stay put and deal with what they think the majority of the population prefers.

In our great state of NY, the governor feels that the majority of New Yorkers want a $9 daily congestion tax, that increases to $15 per day by 2030, placed on cars driving into NYC for the sake of less traffic and a cleaner environment so that's what we are going to get starting in January.

This is on top of the $17 toll to enter New City in the first place, but it will make the environment cleaner while allowing the city/state to issue a 15 billion dollar municipal bond against the future congestion tax revenue which they will then spend those proceeds on other local projects. Although you probably know all of this since you used to live in the area.
And this is why democrats can’t win presidential elections.
 

Former Sunday Rivah Rat

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Not probable.

For instance, they just rewrote all the Dark Sky Laws back here so that the Mormon Church can build a massive industrial temple which will be lit up all night long. It will be the largest building on the entire Wasatch Back & it will stick out like a sore thumb, visible from literally MILES away. The rules were intentionally altered in such a way that the LDS Church got precisely what it asked for. The good news is that yesterday Wasatch County was more Mormon than it is today, and today Wasatch County is more Mormon than it will be tomorrow. Nobody moving here is LDS. But your very rational suggestion to have, " the majority of residents who don't like the spending/investment vote out the elected officials who approved it", simply cannot happen today, because there is X percentage of the population who will only vote for LDS candidates (they'll deny this if asked), so for the most part only LDS people can win. In fact, when we get political mailers before an election, there's almost always a very subtle, "wink wink, nudge, nudge, FYI I'm LDS" message or factoid dropped in there as a tell.

That said, the LDS influence is 1001% worse on the Wasatch Front, so I really shouldn't be bitching. This Institutional temple approval is really the only time I've felt the "power" of the LDS Church since I've lived here, for Utah they are "weak" in power back here, but if you live on the Front, I doubt 12 days passes without you feeling that influence.
I live on the Wasatch front and found the LDS to be good neighbors. I could care less if they want to light up their temples. The neighborhoods feel very safe. I'll take them over some Tren De Aragua gangbangers anyday. We are saving a ton of $ on the lower cost of living,10k a year in just property taxes alone.
 
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